Hivjufossen-discussie

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Deze bladzijde maakt deel uit van het blog-bericht Hivjufossen / Scroll in dat bericht door naar “Bizar vervolg”

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* Dinsdag 2 augustus 2016  De volgende tekst is gemaild naar de NRK-Buskerud journalisten Gunar Grimstveit en Tuva Strom Johannessen. Deze namen stonden n.l. vermeld in het artikel over het ongeluk bij de Hivjufossen op zondag 24 juli 2016.

Because I live in Hovet (but too short to master the Norwegian language), and because I was several times near the Hivjufossen, I am following all the news around the accident on July 24, 2016.
In my Dutch blog I wrote about it already before the accident, and about my warning Hol Kommune for the dangers there. https://antoinettejanssen.com/2016/07/16/hivjufossen/
Since the accident I add all the available news that I can find on internet, every day. This accident should not have happened and it would not have happened IF the authorities who are involved there would have taken action, in time.

Today I passed the starting point of the hiking track to the Hivjufossen. To my great surprise, and consternation, it is not closed to the public. the plastic ribbons the police had attached there to trees, to keep people out, are gone. This means that people can climb to the top, there where it has been proved to be dangerous, and a new victim can be expected, sooner or later. I do NOT understand that not anybody of Hol Kommune takes the effort to WARN people for this dangerous for life waterfall. If the waterfall was a wolf, it would have been shot, immediately. This “wolf” killed three humans, and it is still available to come near, for ALL people. Incredible!

Worse is the lack of ethics that Norway exhibited by this tourist attraction just by keeping it open while the body of the American has not yet been found and taken away from the waterfall. Rescue helpers are trying to find a dead body in full view of all who do not belong there: tourists. This is so incredibly disrespectful that it is unprecedented.

That the victim is still not found, I may conclude from the fact that there is not any news. Obviously one was able to achieve what was intended (article in NRK on Saturday, August 30th): to change the course of the Hivju river, so that less water would enter the waterfall and rescuers finally could search IN the waterfall itself: there is hardly water in the river Storåni, where the water of this waterfall flowing out. Also the red net is not under water anymore.

In my opinion there should be an official message on the sign at the start of the Hivjufossen. There is nothing on it, and therefore it can be used to write the needed information. The police should close the track to the waterfall, as long the body of Kent Hart has not been found. Some lessons in ethics and respect are very much needed here.

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* Deze tekst is op 2 augustus 2016 ook naar pastor An-Magritt Granli gemaild. De tekst werd ingeleid met:

Because of the accident that happened in Hovet’s Hivjufossen on sunday July 24, 2016, and the fact the man, the American Kent Hart, is still missing, there should be a huge area of silence, of respect, because it is without any doubt that he is dead.
This respect is totally missing, there, on the spot, because tourists go free there, nothing keeps them out. They can climb to the top and be the next victim, they can also watch the activities of the recuers there, that should be private, away from the tourist-business.
Reason for me to write to NRK journalists, who already wrote about this, and reason also to contact you, to invite to read my letter, that is included in this email.
 
My sincere wish is that there will be a memorial, at least an official message from Hol Kommune, for all who are visiting the waterfall. On the top of the waterfall should be a monument, with the names of the three victims (1991, 2007 and 2016) of a too dangerous waterfall, a tourist attraction. These names are the best warning sign for all who might feel the need to come too near. At the same time it is the less Hol Kommune, the society of Hol Kommune, can do towards three humans, who died, and towards their beloved ones, who have to learn live without their beloved one.
 
It is incredible what is happening at the moment. Instead of flowers and a candle people walk there as if nothing happened. The man is still there. It is a grave. The waterfall is a grave. and should be treated like that. For ever. Via that monument.
 
I hope you can reach at least the mind of those who obviously do not have any idea about ethics and respect.
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* Woensdag 3 august 2016 Het email is vandaag ook naar de burgemeester van de gemeente Hol gestuurd, via het enige voor niet Noren te vinden email adres dat de website rijk is: postmottak@hol.kommune.no  

Emails worden vandaaruit doorgesluisd of beantwoord, of niet beantwoord.

Mijn email was gericht aan de burgemeester, via postmottak dus, maar ik kreeg geen antwoord van de “Ordfører” Petter Rukke (vertaald in het Engels is Ordfører: Mayor en zo ben ik het email begonnen) maar van Torkil B. Dokk, Utmarksrådgiver. “Utmark” is in de Noorse wetgeving in principe alle gebieden die niet gedefinieerd zijn als bouwland. De term dekt het grootste deel van de meren en water, stranden, moerassen, bossen en bergen van Noorwegen. De term wordt gebruikt in de wet, om aan gebieden waar iedereen uitgebreide rechten heeft, met inbegrip van verkeer, toe te wijzen.

Pas dagen na mijn email, gericht aan de burgemeester, ontdekte ik dat Hol geen burgemeester heeft maar een Ordfører. Dat is blijkbaar niet hetzelfde als burgemeester, maar het is wel de leider (fører), ook al geeft google aan dat de vertaling voor burgemeester ordfører is.

Ik kende zijn naam niet, er is ook vanuit de “postmottak-balie” geen informatie gegeven. Behulpzaamheid is bestaat als Noors woord en wordt pas actief wanneer er doden te betreuren zijn, dan halen zij werkelijk alles uit de kast.

Niemand geeft mij uitleg hier, je moet het allemaal maar zelf uitzoeken. Door puur toeval komt de naam Petter Rukke ter sprake, lang na mijn email.

Ik vond via google: Petter Rukke (1959) is vanaf 2015 de burgemeester van de gemeente Hol in Buskerud.  Hij heeft een professionele achtergrond van de spoorweg, en verzocht vanuit de positie in Jernbaneverket tot toetreding als burgemeester.

Ik lees geen kranten hier, volg geen lokaal nieuws, ik was meer met de wereld bezig, klimaatverandering, terreur, en meer. Nu wordt het lokale nieuws wereldnieuws, daar zorg ik wel voor, ik heb (zie update 6 augustus) alle feiten doorgestuurd naar USA.

Ik kreeg dus geen antwoord van de burgemeester, maar van Torkil B. Dokk, en diens functie wordt ook nergens omschreven. Via google kom ik er achter wat Umrat betekent. Het woord “rådgiver” klinkt erg Nederlands: raadgever, adviseur, hetgeen google translate ook aangaf. Al met al een goede keuze van de burgemeester om de “rådgiver” te raadplegen, maar betreffende dodelijke ongevallen en hoe daarmee om te gaan vanuit ethisch oogpunt, daar had hij als mens op kunnen reageren en dat is niet gebeurd. Torkil Dokk schuift het vervolgens ook weer van zich af en wijst naar de politie. Die heb ik daarna aangeschreven maar ik heb geen antwoord gekregen.

There are several signs at Hivjufossen which warns about the danger of the waterfall. Hiking in nature with steep hills and waterfalls can be dangerous, this is the case for Hivjufossen and several other areas not only in Hol, but the whole of Norway. In Norway the right of way is important, and all areas are open to the public with very few exceptions, even if hiking there can be dangerous. The Hivju-area was closed to the public by the police during the search and rescue operation. It is up to the police whether they need to close it during operations, but the rest of the time it remains open to the public.
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Ik antwoordde:

Thank you for your email, as a reply on mine. I notice again just a forwarding of responsibilities to others.
Obviously this is the Norwegian policy, and not fitting within the sad dramatic circumstances of the moment.
Open, free ways to go, okay, but, in this case we all know that a dead body is somewhere there.
I do not hear anything about this shameless, barbarian situation. I am really shocked that Norwegians do not show respect for the man who died. Searching for a dead body is one step too late. Creating a memorial on the top of the waterfall could be the less to be done to show respect for the three who died there. It is at the same time the best warning for tourists: to see the names, the dates they passed away. There.
 
The next accident is just waiting, and I blame Norway, Hol Kommune for the next dead person. Millions of Kroner are spent to find a dead body, but to prevent a funeral, accidents, deadly accidents, nothing, at least not enough or hardly enough is done. What is on the top of the waterfall is not enough.
People have to be protected against themselves, and need to be warned. With English written texts, with fences. Those who go over fences ask to be killed and make the falling into the fall another case. It is their responsibility.
 
The text on the top of the waterfall is in Norwegian, and not any person from abroad can read it.
Not any sign of respect towards the dead is there. Nothing.
It is one big shame.
Shame on Hol Kommune.
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Hierna heb ik de tekst geforward naar de politie in Hol Kommune. Zodra er antwoorden komen van een van hen die ik gemaild heb, zal ik dit hier publiceren. 

Update 7 augustus: nog geen antwoord, en ik verwacht dit ook niet meer. Met andere woorden: het hele Hivju-geval is in de doofpot gestopt.

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* Donderdag 4 augustus, 2016   Email naar Magne Holestøl:

First I apologize: I do not master the Norwegian language, yet, and therefore I have to write in English.

This message was already sent to NRK, because I could not find an email address, and asked them to forward it to you.

Then I found the website and the email address.

Why do I send this email?

It is all about the accident in the Hivjufossen.I can read the Norwegian news by translating it via google. I read the NRK articles about the Hivjufossen, and the accident with Kent R. Hart.

Also your comment and I agree with you. I would like to exchange thoughts and ideas about this Hivjufossen, and what can be done. I hope the language will not be a problem. It is important to start with this now the news is still fresh. I have the idea that the Norwegian authorities want to silence all as soon as possible, to forget it, until the next victim will fall in the Hivjufossen, and dies. Several emails have been sent to the newspapers, Hol Kommune and even to the church authorities but I do not get any answer than this:

“There are several signs at Hivjufossen which warns about the danger of the waterfall. Hiking in nature with steep hills and waterfalls can be dangerous, this is the case for Hivjufossen and several other areas not only in Hol, but the whole of Norway. In Norway the right of way is important, and all areas are open to the public with very few exceptions, even if hiking there can be dangerous. The Hivju-area was closed to the public by the police during the search and rescue operation. It is up to the police whether they need to close it during operations, but the rest of the time it remains open to the public.”

This is how they hide behind another, and I would like to find out who the exact responsible one is. If this is the Norwegian law than it is time that tourists from abroad get the right information before they visit Norway. I am searching for legal bodies abroad, to confront them with this issue, that is highly ignored by the Norwegians, except you.

They have to know that Norway does not protect tourists, that journeys in nature are risky, often dangerous for life, that Norwegians are willing to pick their dead body up from wherever it is, but that’s it. Norway is in fact a zoo with wild animals like wild rivers, mountains and waterfalls, predators, not in a cage: all doors are open, and tourists go inside this “zoo” named Norway, without realizing that all doors to all predators are open. Tourists have to know this, they have to be informed. Those who do not listen anyway take their own responsibility and then it is another case.

But now, they are not warned, and this is what I blame the Norwegian government. When there is advertisement for visiting Norway then also the warnings must be there. They are not. People do not speak Norwegian, cannot read Norwegian. On the top of the waterfall Hivjufossen is a Norwegian text, nobody can read it. Nothing there explains that there is danger for LIFE.

In my opinion there should be warnings at the start: on the parking place, and at the start of the track. But nothing is there. Finally, after a dangerous for life hike, people are confronted with some warnings, but seeing the waterfall, and that nothing has been mentioned earlier, they forget all and go. On the top could be a memorial, with the names of the victims, who died there, this as the most realistic warning for all who visit the waterfall, at the same time a remembrance for the victims, who lost their life there, because of lack of information. Hol Kommune can forward the problems to the police: it is too easy to wash hands in innocence. And the police: indeed, what a lack of piety to let the waterfall open for public, while the dead man was still there. This is shocking.

This HAS to change. You agree?

 

* Donderdag 4 augustus 2016  Email naar the editorial office of “Hallingdólen”

 
Indeed, a huge job is finished: “Det er gjort ein stor innsats frå fleire for å finne personen.”
(I do not master the Norwegian language but I use google to translate.)
 
How great it would be if the same effort would be taken to avoid a new accident there. 
But nothing is done, what is there is not enough, far from enough
Tourists should be warned, and since the waterfall is so close to the road, to the village, so easy to be found even by children, it is necessary that jobs will become available for a person, or two, three, who can be a guide there, on the top, in the summer months. Hol Kommune can offer jobs to people, for the season. Only in this way new accidents will and can be avoided.
 
A memorial sign with the names of the victims of 1991, 2007 and 2016. is a way of showing respect towards the victims and their family. These names belong to people who lost their life because of lack of warning. 
 

The tourists from abroad cannot read the Norwegian text on the sign up there, and the other marks are not strong enough. It is not clear that the Hivjufossen is a life-dangerous waterfall. Tourists are generally not informed about Norway’s policy concerning nature, and the dangers for human beings. Norway has an open area, comparable with a zoo filled with predators, in this case life for dangerous waterfalls, and other tourist attractions. Entering a zoo is safe: all cages are closed. Norway has all doors to all predators open, without any warning. The cynical remark of Pål Knutsson Medhus in NRK Buskerud ( https://www.nrk.no/buskerud/_-ikke-trygt-for-turister-1.13058613 ) from Geilo that tourists even climb over fences, with other words, that it is their own mistake and responsibility when they die, is utterly respectless. Tourists do NOT have a choice now. They are NOT informed on the parking place, not at the start of the track. The first warning is at the top, and then the people are so amazed of the waterfall that they forget all. Besides that: the whole track has several very dangerous spots as well.

Norway wants to offer help when it is too late, but to create a needed fence next to the track: no, too much effort.

It seems as if they just wait for the next victim, to go there, with a huge rescue team, police, etc. rescue dogs, divers, climbers, as if they like it to help, and only that, when it is too late. Great job. But avoiding funerals is now the first thing to be done.

Hallingdólen should pay attention to this and show criticism where is a huge lack of here.
Also possible: ask Magne Holestøl, offer him space in the Hallingdólen for creating a discussion. As he talks about in the NRK newspaper.

 

* Vrijdag 5 augustus, 2016  -Email van An-Magritt Granli, pastor:

Jeg takker for din henvendelse og videresender den til prosten for uttale. 

Vertaling via google, ik kan er niet veel wijs uit: “Dank je voor je verzoek, ik forward je brief voor eventuele reacties.”

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* -Email van dominee Arne Jensen:

We understand your concern in connection with the accident at Hivjufossen. If my memory serves me, when it comes to security, both the police and a representative from a tourist office have given statements to the media.

Beyond this we hope and trust that knowledge about these accidents will sharpen our respect both for the forces of nature and the life of man.

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* Mijn reactie is hard, en gaat wellicht over de grens van wat fatsoen is. Ik vergeef het mijzelf, en bied er geen excuses voor aan, want deze dominee is op zijn beurt, echter op een heel erg slimme manier, heel verholen, zelf onfatsoenlijk, onetisch. Waarom maak ik verderop duidelijk.

Ik ben tot nu toe alleen maar van het kastje naar de muur gestuurd, en ik krijg van degenen die ik aangeschreven heb geen juist antwoord: men schuift feiten van zich af, of schuift ze door naar de volgende, erger: men verwijt in stilzwijgen, doch tussen de regels door te lezen, schuld in de richting van de overledenen. Men geeft simpel de overledenen de schuld (met heel mooie woorden, listig!), daarmee hun handen in onschuld wassend. Waar las ik dat nog meer?

Wanneer dan een dominee antwoordt zoals hij deed, dwingt hij mij in principe om fel reageren, hij vraagt er om. Hij spreekt als Pilatus (om zijn vakjargon te gebruiken) en laat de beslissing over aan anderen, in dit geval de gemeente en de turistsjef in Geilo (lees Jaailoo), waar hij zich simpelweg achter verschuilt, met woorden die trachten te omzeilen, maar ik ben een door het leven getraind slachtoffer dat hersteld is, en daarmee zijn zijn woorden voor mij glashelder, ik kijk er dwars doorheen, ook door hem, de dominee. Ik laat mij door mooie praatjes niet meer misleiden of van de wijs brengen.

In deze omstandigheden, waarin er een dode, de derde, te betreuren valt, is zijn kijk op het geheel ronduit schokkend, hoe mooi de woorden ook mogen klinken: ze zijn niet van hem, hij heeft ze ergens gelezen, gecopiëerd en geplakt in zijn email naar mij. Dat is medeleven veinzen.

Ik ben erg aangeslagen door alles, maar het uitblijven van activiteiten om de Hivjufossen te beveiligen, dat maakt het tot een niet te bevatten realiteit.  Dat een geestelijke zich opstelt in de rij van de staalharde, shallow Noorse wetgeving, diens regelgevers, controleurs en rådgiver, dat doet mij het volgende schrijven.

Eerst: waarom markeer ik de Noorse regelgeving als shallow:

  1. Er wordt nergens over de rechten van de mens gesproken: het recht om ingelicht te worden en voorgelicht over veiligheid: het gebrek of de afwezigheid van veiligheid, en om dodelijke ongelukken te voorkomen, om te voorkomen dat men sterft aan iets waarvan men zonder inlichting geen weet heeft. Dit is een vorm van sluipmoord en crimineel. Er niets aan doen om het te voorkomen zou strafbaar moeten zijn. In die context zijn er nogal wat loslopende criminelen in Noorwegen, die zich van geen kwaad bewust zijn, want ze volgen de wet blindelings, zonder commentaar, blijkbaar.
  2. Er wordt nergens in de wetgeving gesproken over de plicht van toeristen-organisaties/websites en hun leidinggevenden, webhosts, om mensen, toeristen, in te lichten en voor te lichten over levensgevaarlijke situaties in Noorse toeristen-attracties die via hun websites worden aanbevolen, zoals bij de levensgevaarlijke Hivjufossen, waarvan de evenzo gevaarlijke-levensgevaarlijke trail notabene pal langs de openbare doorgangsweg naar Bergen en Oslo ligt.
  3. Lees dit nogmaals: die Hivjufossen is te bereiken via een trail dat begint pal langs de de rijksweg van Oslo naar Bergen. Het wordt rijkelijk op tijd aangegeven. Je kunt er niet omheen. En dus stopt iedereen. Iedereen wil wel even gaan kijken.
  4. Nergens staat te lezen: 1. dat het een gevaarlijke, zware tocht betreft voor getrainde hikers. 2. Dat de tocht minstens 40 minuten duurt, voor getrainde hikers, 3. dat je dus dorstig zult worden en 4. dus water mee moet nemen vanuit de auto, 5. omdat water nemen vanuit de waterval al twee mensen het leven heeft gekost. 6. Dat men het fototoestel beneden moet laten omdat fotograferen levensgevaarlijk is. 7. Uitleg over gladde rotsen, 8. over verlies van evenwicht bij het zien van stromend water, etc. etc., het ontbreekt. Ook op websites. 9. Dat je schoen-zolen door nat worden glad worden. 10. Nergens is te lezen dat de waterval het leven heeft gekost van drie mensen, in 1991, 2007 en 2016. Niets. Zero. Niente.
  5. Men doet niets aan preventie, niet voldoende, verre van voldoende. Conclusie: Je mag doodvallen. “We” halen je dode lichaam er wel uit. Kan niet schelen hoeveel moeite dit kost, of hoeveel werk, en hoelang. “We” investeren echter geen seconde aan preventie. Ja, “we” laten je dood vallen, je kunt doodvallen (Nederlandse uitdrukking, die in Noorwegen letterlijk wordt uitgevoerd.). En ook ik, schrijfster van al die emails, mag doodvallen, maar ik laat me niet doodzwijgen.

 

Het plegen van een misdrijf is strafbaar. Het veroorzaken van een dodelijk ongeluk is een misdrijf en strafbaar. Wanneer ergens een dodelijk ongeluk kan gebeuren en men weigert medewerking om dit dodelijke ongeluk te voorkomen, dan draagt men bij aan het tot stand komen van een dodelijk ongeluk, en dit valt onder medeplichtigheid.

Een medeplichtige, in het strafrecht, is de persoon die voldoet aan een van de volgende omschrijvingen:

  1. opzettelijk heeft bijgedragen tot het misdrijf
  2. niet-noodzakelijke hulp heeft geboden
  3. onderrichtingen heeft gegeven
  4. wapens, werktuigen of andere middelen heeft verschaft
  5. onderdak heeft verleend en/of op voorhand met zekerheid op de hoogte was of had kunnen zijn van het misdrijf.

 

In dit Hivjufossen ongeluk geldt logischerwijze voortvloeiend uit het voorgaande het volgende:

Een medeplichtige is de persoon of instantie die voldoet aan de volgende omschrijvingen:

  • opzettelijk heeft bijgedragen tot het totstandkomen van een dodelijk ongeluk door: 1.mensen naar een plek te verwijzen dan wel te leiden, die levensgevaarlijk is, zonder te mensen van te voren in te lichten over de gevaren, waarop te letten, wat te vermijden, 2. wat de effecten zijn van water op rotsen, op schoenzolen, 3. noch te wijzen op de on-betrouwbaarheid van wat ogen waarnemen wanneer water stroomt. 4. Daarnaast door na te laten mensen te waarschuwen voor dorst, vanwege de zware hike-tocht naar boven die in feite voor getrainde hikers bestemd is, 5. en voor getrainde hikers 40 minuten klimmen betreft. 6. Het nalaten van met klem verzoeken water mee te nemen naar boven, omdat water scheppen uit de waterval, waar dan ook, levensgevaarlijk is en het leven heeft gekost van ten minste twee mensen. 7. Het nalaten van het verschaffen van informatie over de totale afwezigheid van bescherming op levensgevaarlijke plekken waar men wil fotograferen of filmen. 8. Het nalaten van het geven van advies om niet te fotograferen. 9. Het nalaten van het informeren over levensgevaarlijke passages in de hiking tour naar boven.  10. Het nalaten van het verstrekken van informatie over de slachtoffers van deze levensgevaarlijke waterval. 

Het Noorse beleid maakt van de Hivjufossen een sluipmoordenaar: pas wanneer het te laat is weet men, de toerist, van die “moordenaar”, terwijl de Noren weten dat het een moordenaar IS. Het nalaten van het publiekelijk kenbaar maken van de moordenaar, in dit geval de waterval, is zichzelf medeplichtig maken aan dodelijke ongelukken.

Conclusie: Het Noorse beleid, en allen die dit volgen of er zich achter verschuilen, zijn medeplichtig aan de dood van drie mensen.

 

Mijn antwoord aan de dominee:

Yes, I have read the newspapers, translated via google and I know what has been said, especially the turistsjef from Geilo. This, and more, proves that this third victim of lack of information near the waterfall, has not created any insight in the world around.
The only one that has and shows real respect towards life in general and nature as well, is Magne Holestøl. He has found the body of the Norwegian woman, in 1991, after she fell in this waterfall, and took her out there. Easy to write this sentence, to do this is traumatical. One never forgets.
The turistsjef from Geilo proves not to have understood anything about life and dead, about responsibilities. The responsibility to warn people is a must. This means: offering the right information. He has not done anything about it.

Mage Holestøl from Hovet has.

Anyhow, I have to be honest and add here that I had expected a more serious answer from a reverend. Though you work with all what is related with the deeper values of life, you sound the same as all others. Just forwarding the issue and waiting for the next victim, to do nothing again, not more than adding some meaningless words in this cruel world of the moment, at least if you follow some more news than NRK Buskerud: “Beyond this we hope and trust that knowledge about these accidents will sharpen our respect both for the forces of nature and the life of man.”

I wonder what will be told when the last day has come for you, and you will meet the hereafter.
Hard words, but again: you sound as shallow as all others till so far, the only exception is Magne Holestøl.

Wishing you a great life, wonderful spiritual growth, deepening, soul-deepening, and please do not react anymore.
I have learned via your words who you are.

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* Zaterdag 6 augustus, 2016 – Mijn email naar Jessica Miller, reporter / justice and safety, The Salt Lake Tribune
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It is a remarkable coincidence that you are a reporter about justice and safety.
I search contact with you via this email, to inform you about the circumstances around the fatal accident of Kent R. Hart.I live in Norway since 2010, very near to the Hivjufossen. I have followed the news around Kent R. Hart, from the very beginning, on Sunday July 24, 2016. Eight days before I wrote a blog post https://antoinettejanssen.com/2016/07/16/hivjufossen/ (which is since July 24 daily updated with news), about the dangers of the waterfall, and have even asked the community (before the accident) to do more than they did, to avoid a new accident.

Until today, August 6, 2016, even after the death of Kent Hart, nothing is changing. Therefore I search new directions, new ways to avoid accident number four. By coincidence I read your article, and also that you are a reporter of justice and safety. This Kent R. Hart case IS a case about justice and safety.

The only Norwegian that thinks the same as I do, and warns already for decades for the dangers of the waterfall, without any result though, is Magne Holestøl from Hovet, the village where I live also. He was one of the two who searched the first victim, after she fell into the waterfall, a Norwegian woman, in 1991. He found her, after fourteen days, and took her dead body out. A huge incredible heavy task.

I read about Magne Holestøl in Norway’s most important newspaper: NRK. It is also the name of the official Norwegian Broadcasting Company. You can read the article here: https://www.nrk.no/buskerud/_-ikke-trygt-for-turister-1.13058613 and it is possible to translate the Norwegian text with https://translate.google.com/

I have sent Magne Holestøl an email and he called me. He told me that I was the only one who reacted on the article. He shared a lot of information with me about this waterfall. About the dangers. About his ideas to make it more safe. He only gets resistance in the community.

The policy of the community is in fact the policy of Norway. Not any person from abroad is aware of this policy. Norway invites people via: Visit Norway!, but nowhere one can read the policy about nature, risks, and so on. People are free to go, everywhere, and that’s it. Not any fence is wanted. The head of tourism in Geilo, a village that belongs to Hol Community, even goes so far that he dared to state that he should not allow people to make fences, at the waterfall, if this land belonged to him. Because, he says, people step over the fences anyway. You can read about Pål Knutsson Medhus in the same article.

The Hivjufossen belongs to a private person, I know his name, but the Norwegian law forces people to let it open for public. Who is responsible for accidents? For the death of a person? Where can claims for damage, costs, etc. be sent to? Nobody knows. The one hides behind the other. When one asks a Norwegian (local) authority for information, they forward the email, or one gets an answer (IF one gets an answer) that stops all the energy in you to continue searching for a true real answer. I am aware of this, I notice this, and that is why I write you.

Maybe you know ways for true answers, via lawyers who have known Kent Hart, and who want to search to the bottom to find justice here, to create safety for the future.
It could make a difference when it will become clear who is responsible for claims, for the amounts of money that all these unwanted funerals cost, plus all costs from before there could be any funeral, like hotel costs to offer family to stay there, as long the body has not been found.

I sincerely believe that Kent Hart was not behaving irresponsible there at the waterfall. He is not the man for that.

The real cause of this death is: the absence of information there, what wet rocks create, what streaming water does with one’s balance, because the human eyes become “confused” when seeing streaming water under the feet, or very near, and give you wrong messages about stability.

Some of these points I have mentioned to Hol community before the accident, but they do not want to listen. They did enough, they say, with planting some signs there. (See PDF Hol Kommune.) But this is far from enough, and: the Norwegian text cannot be read by tourists from abroad. A sign with a falling man is not enough, because people do not know how a waterfall acts, how the body acts when finally in the water. I do not sense danger for life when I watch the PDF with photos, the signs warn, but where is the sign for “death”? Also missing is the information that it takes a huge effort to take them out, finally, after searching by a highly trained group of mostly volunteers, not even payed, risking their own life to find a dead body. Also is missing the memorial of those who died there. Nobody knows about it. Tourists come and go, and yes, even during the time they were searching for Kent Hart, the waterfall track was opened for public, also there on the top, the people could walk around. It was shocking to realize how unethical, disrespectful Norwegians prove to be, because in fact the rescue work could be watched by those who do not belong there: there was a dead body in the waterfall, and therefore the waterfall had to be closed.

All here is about: who is responsible for those who died, and who is responsible for the right warning information, at the parking place, at the start of the track up, a very heavy hiking track, of about 40 minutes, for 1,5 km, and when arrived, one is thirsty and wants to take fresh water from the fall. Not knowing the risks. Not knowing about slippery wet rocks, about the effect of water on the soles of shoes. Water makes them slippery. All this is short, easy, information, but one does not want to take the effort and write it down somewhere. Norwegians know mostly what rocks and water create, but the first victim WAS a Norwegian (woman). This has nothing to do with taking risks, searching for a thrill, it is the absence of true information on an utterly dangerous spot. Even the track, the trail up is full of dangers.

People have the right to be informed. The right, it is a human right to be informed about dangers, about dangers for life. People have the right for a choice: to go there, and taking all the risks, despite the warnings, or not to go up, and avoiding the risks. Now there is not any choice at all. And the Norwegian head of tourism talks as if humans who die there are just stupid ones, who can be blamed themselves. This is utterly shameful.

The strange thing is that other Norwegians, like the reverend of the village (I asked the church authorities for a memorial), hide behind this statement, and do not think deeper, for instance about what I mentioned here in this paragraph. I do not get answers from not any newspaper here. Again: it is only Magne Holestøl who shows real interest, empathy. Who is besides that very well informed about the dangers, and solutions to make it at least lesser dangerous. One of these solutions is to create a tap there, where people can take water to drink, and avoiding with this to risk to fall into the waterfall when taking it there, from the slippery borders.

Another very dangerous activity there is making photos from too dangerous spots. These spots are the best places for the best most amazing picture, but the risk is so high that people have to be warned for that spot. There has to be made a protection. All who ever have made a photo in nature, who have been in true nature or wilderness, know the longing from inside, to take a shot and show it at home, to share the beauty. This Hivju-waterfall is a majestic waterfall: video by Jorge Astorquia on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOFxs8eyVa4

Maybe it is this place where Kent Hart fell into the waterfall. It could have been avoided. There will be a new victim, sooner or later. And a lot will have good luck, and do not slip.
Nobody knows about the “almost dead” cases.

All emails I have sent and answers on it can be found here:
https://antoinettejanssen.com/fotos/hivjufossen/hivjufossen-discussie/
All emails are in English, because I do not master the Norwegian language. My English is not perfect, I apologize for that.

Thank you for taking time for this long email, and I hope sincerely that it will get response from the side of justice and safety.

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*Maandag, 8 augustus, 2016
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Email naar Arvid Viken, Professor aan de Arctic University of Norway in Tromsø / toerisme / Departement Sociologie, Politicologie en Community Planning
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 Professor Arvid Viken,

When searching on google for a ministry of tourism in Norway, I found an article written in Dutch. The source was Aftenposten, but the original article cannot be found anymore. Then I continued with searching for more details around the name that was mentioned: Arvid Viken. Googling on that name I arrived on the website of The Arctic University of Norway, and found your email address.

Yes, I agree with you (I read your statement) that Norway needs a ministry of tourism. The article is from 2007. We live now in 2016, 9 years later, and still not any ministry of tourism is there. Since tourism is an industrial sector in Norway, with income for people, Norway’s pure nature, as one of the last available on earth, is the attraction. This attraction is absolutely majestic, and needs protection against the tourism-industry. Wilderness is disappearing, worldwide.
This needs a ministry before there is no ministry of tourism needed anymore.

There is another factor: safety, the right for safety, information how to create it, and the duty to create it.
Nowhere is written what the dangers of being in nature, in the Norwegian wilderness are, so dangerous, that people even die because of accidents that could have been avoided IF there was a policy, an official institute that writes down the rights of the tourists for necessary information to avoid death.
Next to this there should be the knowledge of duty, duties, of all who belong to the tourism industry, via jobs, websites, to warn people for the dangers, for the possibility that they lose their life, in nature, in wilderness, if they ignore important warnings and advice.
People have to be informed about the effects of water, streaming water, or the little water drips spread around by the falling down of the huge power of a waterfall, on stones. Stones become slippery. The soles of even the best shoes become slippery. The eyes do not know what to do with the information they receive from streaming water. It is a scientifically proved fact that the natural balance is created by our eyes, and that streaming water affects the information of the eyes. We lose finally the balance. When close to a waterfall one falls, and the waterfall takes the body with it downward.

This happened three times now, with a deadly result, in 3577 Hovet. The Hivjufossen has taken the life of three humans: in 1991, in 2007 and in 2016. On Sunday July 24, 2016, Kent Hart, a beloved and well known lawyer from Utah, USA, 50 years young, fell into the waterfall, and was found dead ten days after.

I have done everything to make Norwegians around me aware of the lack of the right information. People are NOT informed. Nowhere. On the top of the waterfall is a Norwegian text and nobody can read it who is not born in Norway. The most of the tourists are not Norwegian. And IF so: the most come form cities where they did not learn about water and the effects of it. There are some signs that make clear one can fall, but nowhere one can sense the danger for death.

In all my work, to try to find reasonable minds, I do not find anything else than forwarding my question or remark, to another one. Generally I have understood finally that Norwegians blame the dead to be dead. Not directly, but in the sentences they write or speak, I hear this accusation, very clear. They all wash their hands in innocence and nobody knows who in fact is responsible for the death of these humans.

I have been thinking into depths about this issue and cannot find any other final conclusion than that all are responsible who work in the tourist industry. All. All officials from all communities, even the priests and reverends of churches, all are responsible for doing nothing to solve the case.

They all ignore the RIGHT of a human being to be informed about the deadly risks that are connected with the Norwegian tourist attractions.
The Hivjufossen is a highly dangerous waterfall, with a highly dangerous trail to the top, and this trail is not in wilderness, far away off the road, no it is directly next to the road that connects Oslo with Bergen. This is how Kent Hart found it, and decided to stop, park the car on the parking place, not being warned for taking water with him to the top because of the huge effort it takes to get there, the long time it takes to climb there: 40 minutes, and when up so thirsty that one wants to drink, HAS to drink. Well, taking water from the waterfall is the same as taking water from a river with crocodiles.
There are some signs on the top that warn, as I wrote, but not any sign offers the insight about death. Falling does not mean per definition that one dies. But there: on the top of the Hivjufossen and on the road up, with much slippery wet rocks also: yes, one can fall into death!

Also making photos there is highly risky because the best spot to take pictures is an utterly dangerous spot. Nothing protects people there. Nothing.
I learned all these details about risks from the only one who is really concerned about this waterfall: Magne Holestøl from Hovet.
I was the only one of all Norwegians in Hallingdal that reacted on his proposal in the newspaper NRK Buskerud, to start a discussion about this dangerous waterfall.
I am not Norwegian, I am Dutch, but I live here. Very near to the waterfall. I have even warned Hol Kommune a week before the new accident happened, for the dangers en consequences of the missing information, there, at the start of the waterfall.

This waterfall is available for even children, children of Hovet, who want to go up, the waterfall is in the area where people live. That is why I wrote to Hol Kommune, and until now, even after a second email, I only get the answer that they did enough. From the turistsjef living in Geilo I understood (newspaper) that if he was the owner of the land where the waterfall belongs to, he would forbid the placing of fences, to keep people out. Why? He is convinced that people climb over it anyway. Well, there will be idiots who are going to climb over it, there are always stupid ones, but they, neither their family, can blame Norway in that case for not paying attention to safety. All those other, normal, not idiots, are just not warned and do not know the danger.

On this very moment tourists are visiting Norway without the needed information about dangers. This has to become a must for the Norwegian law, the Norwegian authorities in all the Norwegian communities, to request as a duty to inform tourists on websites, at the start of a waterfall, or any other dangerous attraction. This from out of the perspective that humans have the right to be informed about dangers, about life dangerous situations. It is a human right to be informed.
So simple it is.

I have sent this email also to the mayor of Hol Kommune, Petter Rukke (via Bcc), who did not answer my email to him, but who forwarded it obviously to the Utmarkrådgiver. The utmarkrådgiver wrote me that all around the accident belonged to the police. I have forwarded the email to the police but I do not get any answer. Even the reverend here writes in some sentences his opinion. It might be hidden for a lot, but I read the same blaming the dead for their death. This is an utterly indecent, unethical, statement, because those who die did not have any idea what they were doing, because there was not the right information. They did not have the choice to go or not to go, because of dangers. Because: it is logic, just logic, that when something is so dangerous it is closed for public. But not the Hivjufossen, not even during the days that the dead body was still IN the waterfall. This is so incredible that it goes beyond my power to get it. Deeply shocking.

I have sent all the details also to a reporter of The Salt Lake Tribune, who wrote about the loss of their beloved Kent Hart: Jessica Miller, and what a coincidence: she is there for writing about justice and safety.
The world MUST know what is going on in Norway, how all hide behind wrong views, washing hands in innocence, but in my logic they are all guilty in not offering the right information. The only one who is different is Magne Holestøl. He found the dead body of the Norwegian woman, 14 days after she fell in the waterfall, in 1991. He knows all about the dangers and he said that this waterfall is dangerous for tourists, they should not go there.
Article: NRK Buskerud: https://www.nrk.no/buskerud/_-ikke-trygt-for-turister-1.13058613

My sincere wish is that it will change there, that the serial of dead people stops, per direct.
My sincere wish is that you, professor Arvid Viken, can offer help in this, by forwarding this email to the right officials, the right politicians, or via sending me names of those who I could write, and try to convince them about the necessity of a ministry of tourism, that creates a safe policy, around safety, rights and duties, laws that create insight and clearness in who exactly is responsible.

Thank you in advance,

Kindest regards,

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*Woensdag, 10 augustus, 2016
Email naar de Nederlandse rijksoverheid: (er was een limiet van 5000 woorden dus ik moest me beperken en heb daarom verwezen naar mijn blog bericht over de Hivjufossen.
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Op de website van de rijksoverheid wordt verwezen naar Visit Norway voor informatie. Terecht. Een fantastische website, met echter een enorm belangrijke doch missende factor wanneer men Noorwegen als bestemming heeft gekozen: veiligheid. Terreur aanslagen: daar wordt voor gewaarschuwd op uw website, doch Visit Norway (en geen enkele andere website) waarschuwt voor de altijd loerende dodelijke gevaren van en in de Noorse wildernis, waaronder o.a. watervallen gecategoriseerd zijn.Noorwegen doet alles om mensen te redden, meestal zijn ze echter al overleden wanneer top-rescue teams actief worden. Aan preventie wordt in feite niets gedaan.

Het zou verplicht moeten zijn om toeristen te informeren over de effecten van bijv. water op rotsen (gladheid, ook schoenzolen reageren op water), het effect van stromend water op waarneming via ogen, en het verlies van balans. Hoe gevaarlijk is dit wanneer men na een lange hike tocht water wil scheppen uit de waterval. Men denkt er niet over om een kraan te plaatsen, of afscherming.

Ik woon in Noorwegen en ben zeer goed op de hoogte, ook van dodelijke ongelukken. Toeristen hebben recht op informatie maar weten niet welke informatie nodig is om ongelukken te voorkomen, en waar die te vinden: die IS er niet.

Ik heb allerlei Noorse instanties benaderd, maar krijg alleen afwijzingen. Daarom dit bericht. Schokkende details over o.a. de Hivjufossen, waar ook een Nederlander de dood vond in 2007: https://antoinettejanssen.com/2016/07/16/hivjufossen/

Het is waar dat iedereen verantwoordelijk is voor zijn eigen keuzes. Echter in dit geval heeft de toerist geen keuze. Men wordt voor de Noorse leeuwen geworpen zonder er weet van te hebben. Het wordt niet vermeld. Nergens.

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Reactie van de rijksoverheid:
Dank u voor uw e-mail over de missende informatie over de veiligheid van de Noorse natuur voor mensen die naar Noorwegen willen gaan. We hebben uw suggestie doorgestuurd naar de afdeling Reisadviezen van het ministerie van Buitenlandse Zaken. Als het ministerie naar aanleiding van uw bericht aanvullende informatie wenst, nemen zij contact met u op.
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